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Mostlycichlids
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PostSubject: To Euthenise or Not   Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:21 pm

Here is what they look like...you can see their slime coat is gone and their skin/scales are falling off...here is the thread.

http://www.freshwatermadness.com/general-freshwater-f3/ich-outbreak-t460.htm

Here is their current condition...



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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:54 am

Man...that is always a tough call. I would probably give it time and see if they come through...but you can tell better through their actions than we can through pictures. If they are suffering and you really don't think they will make it through treatment then you may want to end their suffering.
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:32 am

If you really want to put in the time and effort, I've had Oscars come back from looking like that and are now scarred but healthy. It's just a lot of babysitting, water changes and crossing your fingers. Formalin is some harsh stuff, you may want to alternate salt baths and formalin.

Just pace your treatments and go easy on them.

On the other hand if you do decide to go the euthanize route. I've found clove oil to be one of the most painless options for larger fish, an ice bath also works.
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:56 am

Well I decided I am dedicated to trying to save them...I think if I can get their slime coat to grow back they just might make it. I lost the Severum over the night but the GT is doing better. I am going to do a salt bath and another 75% W/C while they are in the bath. Then I am going to work on the slime coats, Wish me luck.

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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:35 pm

Sorry to hear about the sev. Was that the rotkeil?
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:57 pm

dirtydawg10 wrote:
Sorry to hear about the sev. Was that the rotkeil?

Sure was luckily I have another one in a different tank.

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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Awesome. Hopefully it will work out.

I don't know if it will do it with yours, but the oscars seem to shed the top layer of skin, and as it's healing/growing back, it's a rough pink/red very raw looking color that will eventually turn whiteish and then back to the normal color. They may not use it at all, but the Oscars here, seemed to also really like having a hiding spot to feel more secure as they heal..
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:06 pm

Sorry to hear bout the sev.
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:33 pm

any updates did they pull through?
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:38 pm

Tehe Convict and the GT were the only ones that made it.

Here is a current photo of the GT!

Before/during treatment:


After:

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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:41 pm

wow that's amazing about how long did that take?
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:45 pm

Well it took a good two weeks, lots of salt and lots of water changes! Once healed up a bit I did a complete substrate change and tear down. I am still keeping 1tsp per gallon of salt in there which seems to be helping with the healing.....Total time to heal up to what she looks like now was about two months.

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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:31 am

well it looks like it was worth she is beautiful
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PostSubject: Re: To Euthenise or Not   Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:44 pm

Yes it was definately worth the time just to save the two and thanks!

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