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c_scherer123 Member

Posts: 90
Age: 23 Location: Athabasca, AB, Canada
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:28 pm | |
| I would love a native tank, I always wanted 5-6 yellow perch in my 65g (we have some awesome colorful jumbos up here). But in Canada it is near impossible to get a license to keep natives, and it is a research license to boot. And the paperwork required to ship in the similar US natives is astronomical. And then if fish & wildlife get wind of natives, Canadian or other, the hassle just isn't worth it. |
|  | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer

Posts: 1914
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:45 pm | |
| You could always bring a few home from the local pond. The sunfish are pretty, but aggressive. My brother found or caught a few for one of my mom's many outdoor ponds, and they didn't get along with anything. If I had the room outside, I'd give a snapper or two a home. They can be mean bastards, but once they get used to you they're pretty chill. I have eastern boxies and I guess by this point Red Ear Sliders might as well be called natives. Not exactly native, but Diamondbacks are in MD and South Jersey too. Close enough I suppose. |
|  | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler

Posts: 1678
Age: 44 Location: Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor: "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish: I won't choose and ya can't make me!
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:02 pm | |
| Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species. Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake?  Oh yeah, nothin' venomous... WYite _________________ One can never have too many fish tanks.
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|  | | Mostlycichlids Cichlid Specialist

Posts: 4517
Age: 32 Location: New Mexico USA Favorite Fish: Jaguar Cichlid
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:41 pm | |
| | Wyomingite wrote: | Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species.
Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake? Oh yeah, nothin' venomous...
WYite | Definately! _________________ "There he goes - one of God's own prototypes - a high powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die".
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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|  | | Mike D DIY Guy

Posts: 1842
Age: 28 Location: Maine Humor: You can't offend me
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:49 am | |
| Thats it I'm going fishing today! |
|  | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer

Posts: 1914
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:11 am | |
| Terrapins. There's no native diamondback rattlers in PA. We got eastern massasauga and timber rattlers though.. |
|  | | jsorensen Member

Posts: 331
Age: 17 Location: St. Louis Favorite Fish: Plakat Betta
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:11 pm | |
| does anybody here keep channel cats? or know how they breed? im going to get some soon for my 500 gal pond gonna put some bass and maybe bluegill in there. any help would be appreciated |
|  | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer

Posts: 1914
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:25 pm | |
| I've had 'em. They come in now and again when people get the little cutie two inchers and don't know they turn into cutie 3 footers. The fish farm breeds 'em, so I can ask for ya next time I'm up there if there's anything special you'd need to do. |
|  | | jsorensen Member

Posts: 331
Age: 17 Location: St. Louis Favorite Fish: Plakat Betta
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:32 pm | |
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|  | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler

Posts: 1678
Age: 44 Location: Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor: "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish: I won't choose and ya can't make me!
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:56 pm | |
| | Mostlycichlids wrote: | | Wyomingite wrote: | Well, gonna collect a few natives this summer. Still up for that, MC? Orange-throat darters have been moved to endangered status in Wyoming, so probly won't receive permission to collect my own. May contact the Colorado fish and game to see how they feel about a non-resident collectin' a half dozen or so. Can still collect iowa darters, johnny darters, and plains killies, though. Not sure I wanna go through the licensing headache for keeping game fish species.
Diamondback, saint? As in terrapin or rattlesnake? Oh yeah, nothin' venomous...
WYite | Definately! |
For that matter, anybody here is welcome if yer gonna be in the area. _________________ One can never have too many fish tanks.
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|  | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler

Posts: 1678
Age: 44 Location: Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor: "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish: I won't choose and ya can't make me!
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:58 pm | |
| | saint_felony wrote: | | Terrapins. There's no native diamondback rattlers in PA. We got eastern massasauga and timber rattlers though.. |
I know that, I was bein' a smartass...thought the "oh, yeah, nothin' venomous" would give it away.
WYite _________________ One can never have too many fish tanks.
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|  | | saint_felony The Turtle Whisperer

Posts: 1914
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:35 pm | |
| D'oh! I had my sarcasm detector set to off. Should be back up and running after the Easter invasion. |
|  | | Jim Banned
Posts: 45
Age: 61 Location: Mid-West Indiana Humor: If At First You Dont Succeed...Go Fishin Favorite Fish: Currently North American Native fishes
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Tue May 26, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| | Wyomingite wrote: | Anyone interested in native North American species besides me? Or in some cases for a few members, European species? Know it could be argued that fish from the southern states aren't cold water, but most don't truly fall under tropical either.
Anyways, back in college I kept plains killifish (Fundulus zebrinus), johnny darters (Etheostoma nigrum ) and Iowa darters (Etheostoma exile). The killies are very attractive. The darters are kind of dull outside of spawning dress, but make up for it with personality. Collecting your own fish is kinda fun as well.
WYite |
How about Tangerine Darters, Rainbow Darters, Pumpkinseed Sunfish, Bluespotted Sunfish, Obesus, Sunfish, Black banded Sunfish, Warmouth, Dollar Sunfish, Orange Spotted Sunfish. Those are some of what im keeping currently, Here, at what one would expect to be the dawn of my fishkeeping hobby, Ive fallen in love with North American Native Fish=NANFA . I have about 6 tanks running currently with all natives, and always lookin for more. I only wish i had found them 20 years ago, when everything i caught was a bluegill, or bass, or at least i thought . So to answer your question YES, im into natives, Hook, Line . and Sinker...so to speak LOL |
|  | | SBL Member

Posts: 413
Age: 15 Favorite Fish: Right now, any fish I own.
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:48 pm | |
| Sunfish are really just the NA version of SA cichlids. Me and my Papa went fishing for bream (Sunfish) and we kept getting little 2-3 inchers and we brought 5 home and put them in thepond. I say that was a mistake, we had 5 goldfish die and a koi that was mentally scarred for life! We spent a week, trying to get them out by hand and we just went to the bait shop, got a dozen crickets and with our poles, and careful manuvering from the giant koi, got them all out. |
|  | | Wyomingite Fish Wrangler

Posts: 1678
Age: 44 Location: Wonderful Windy Wyoming Humor: "I drank what?" - Socrates Favorite Fish: I won't choose and ya can't make me!
 | Subject: Re: The Natives are Restless... Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:29 pm | |
| Comparing sunfish and cichlids is a good analogy, senegal. They do occupy similar ecological niches and have similar behaviors and breeding strategies. They are also as personable and intelligent as many of the cichlids.
Just to avoid any confusion to anyone not familiar with cichlids and sunfish, I'm gonna point out that sunfish are not cichlids, however. They do belong to the same order, Perciformes, and are closely related. But sunfish actually belong to the family Centrarchidae, while cichlids belong to the family Cichlidae (go figure, eh?)
WYite _________________ One can never have too many fish tanks.
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