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PostSubject: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:24 pm

Well, I need to know for a set-up. I don't want any overly nippy tetras and I also want a few species that will co-exist. Also, I want them to be big enough to not be eaten by full grown angels.
Now, what do you say about these species for the set-up?

Diamond Tetra (Moenkhausia pittieri)
Serpae Tetra (Hyphessobrycon callistus)
Head and Tail Light Tetra (Hemigrammus ocellifer)
Glowlight Tetra (Hemigrammus erthrozonus)
Black Skirt Tetra (Gymnocorymbus ternetzi)
Buenos Aires Tetra (Hyphessobrycon anisitsi)
Red-Eye Tetra (Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae)
Black Neon Tetra (Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi)
Glass Bloodfish (Prionobrama filigera)


What do you think of those above and suggest some other good, colorful characins.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:56 pm

I've kept pristellas with angels and they were fine. Cardinals are also a good choice.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:57 pm

Aren't Cardinals too small? Cardinals are usually wild caught so, I'm not risking it threre. Pristellas? Gonna look up those.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:02 pm

Cardinals are larger than neons. I wouldn't recommend neons but the cardinals should be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:08 pm

Pristellas look pretty cool, I'll add those to to possibly go in the tank. And the carsdinals will be thought of. I will check how healthy they are first before buying them. I'm gonna get a 10 gallon Quarantine just incase also.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:34 pm

Good idea on the QT tank!

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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:49 pm

I heard somewhere that most in aquariums were wild caught and, I don't want any disease introduced when the tank is ready, considering it'll be a show tank in the room where all of our guest hang out at. We usually have alot of guests too.
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:13 pm

No to the serpaes, they get nippy and can be as bad as tiger barbs at nippin' at fins. I've never kept red-eyes, so don't know how nippy they get first hand and don't know if they keep it confined to themselves if they do. Other than that, ya should be good with full grown fish of the other species.

Young glowlights, black neons and cardinals will get picked off by large angels, so if ya get smaller individuals let them put some size on in a separate tank prior to introducing them to the tank with the angelfish.

Other than that, any should be good. Diamonds tetras, angelfish and cupid cichlids make a nice arrangement.

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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:47 pm

I will say no to the Serpaes then. I'm starting off with small quarter size Angels. Plus, the tetras they have are usually big enough. They do have a nice pair of angels there too and the only tetras they could eat at the LFS would be the neons and cardinals they have. Lucky the Tetras, the angels are in a different section. Concerning the angels well being, what would be a good dwarf cichlid to inhabit the bottom with the 9x Sterbai Cories and 4x Ottos I want?
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:16 pm

Two or three angels (if ya don't get a pair), 9 sterbai cories, 4 otos and a school of 6-8 tetras will be very well stocked, even a little heavy by the time everything grows out. I'd suggest droppin' the cories to 6, and leavin' the dwarf cichlid out completely. IME, dwarf cichlids, even the most mellow, can take a disliking to cories. It can be hit or miss mixing dwarfs and cories. They may not be aggressive enough to kill the cory, but the poor little catfish's barbels suffer. I had a male golden dwarf acara that hated cories for some reason. The three females and the other male didn't pay any attention to 'em, but that one male would attack 'em every chance he got. He'd even stalk 'em, and they were all melanistus that were a good 1/2" longer than he was and much beefier. Since you don't have a spare tank to move either the cories or cichlid to, I'd skip the cichlid to save heartache later. I've seen the same thing happen with apistos, cupid cichlids, keyholes and both Laetacara curviceps and L. dorsiger. Not all, but some, just don't like cories.

I'd forgot yer stockin' a 29 gallon tank. With what yer proposin', I'd stay away from the buenos aires tetras as well, since they'll reach 3-3.5".

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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:56 am

KK wyite. I'll leave out the dwarfs but, how many different schools of tetras could I have? Just one?
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:55 am

IMO teras are low waste producing species....that being said they like to be in schools of 5 or more perferrablly 10 or more is better....If you choose to go with two schools (which would be fine) you should look to schools of 5-6 each. I also agree with wyite about cories and Cichlids....I also want to add that if the Cichlids don't stress or kill him they will out compete them for food and it will be very hard to feed them properly. Angels are an exception though in my opinion. I would probabally only do two angels with two large schools of tetras and the ottos and cories.

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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:57 am

K, will do, now will need to choose which 2 species. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:01 am

I would coordinate them around your Angels! If you get black angels you wont want black neons....ya get what I am saying. There are several different color forms of angels....I would go for a pearl angel with black neons and glowlites with maybe a koi angel.

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PostSubject: Re: What are some good characin's in a community with angels. 29-gallon also.   Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:05 am

I really want a Black Marble x White Marble x Black. I will go through my choices.
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