Did a pickup with some pretty beat on fish, and a turtle. Not sure who the aggressor was, I was told it got a burial at sea. Some ids, s’il vous plaît.







Also, whatever the fish o' terror was did this to a big red ear slider shell. It's been under a heat lamp basking for the last bunch of hours, so it's not as red or squishy as it was when she got here.

Metriaclima sp., Synodontis euptera, and S. decorus, for quick guesses.

WYite

Some beat up fish you have there. I agree with Wyite...the second pic is a Synodontis euptera. Not sure about the others though.

Yep, with the pics, looks like wyomingite is right on with the ID's. They are pretty beat up...good luck...keep us updated on them.

Something pretty mean must have been in there. Surprised it only attacked the laterial line of the fish and did that to a turtle shell.

I was thinking the same thing Wyite and that maybe the damage could have been due to neglect and poor conditions rather than a fish with that kind of accuracy in biting up a fish in a straight line. Almost looks like HITH or HLLE on the Syno.

I wonder what was the thing "buried at sea". I feel bad for those fish. I hope we figure it out before one of us makes the mistake of getting something or doing something like that.

I wish I knew. The guy who got 'em to me, got them from someone else. He doesn't keep fish, so when he was told the damage on the cats was from a big african and that african was disposed of, he believed 'em.

He told me he had seen the tank before, and that the missing fish was something reddish orange and very streamlined looking.

The lateral line scarring is what had us here perplexed too. It's almost like they got crammed though something too small for them, but it still doesn't explain what happened to the decorus fins, or the slider.

Speaking of the slider, since she finally came out of her shell for me nearly all the way, is that her neck is ripped up pretty good on the top behind the head. There's a good flap of skin that I'm going to have to get in there and do something about, and probably get bit in the process.

So far so good though. Everyone here is in quarantine. I have a seperate 10 set up for the decorus in case there's any problems. You can't tell so well from the pics but his operculum are practically stumps.

Wow it would have to be one strong fish. The syns, should have been eaten, if it did that to the turtle i would think. Could it have been a red striped snake head?Although illegal i know of 2 in michigan. Man are they mean!

No fish I can think of fits the attack pattern, nor any other animal I can think of for that matter. There should be chunks missing and random chunks at that or they should have been dead.

I'm dubious of any disease too, since I've never seen one that does lines like that. Wyite, I'm not sure if I mentioned it in chat last night or not, but that scarring goes down both sides, not just the one.

Detroit, for a short while I kept a Snakehead with a Slider and it never did anything like that. I suppose a snakehead could do that to a slider shell, but then again if that's what was in there, everything else should have been dead.

I'm going to try and see if I can talk to who had them originally, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to, or if it will get me anywhere. They're here. They're doing well. The cats will be here forever I'm sure, but at least they'll be fine here. The euptera is already getting used to me as far as feeding goes.

You didn't mention it, but doesn't change my opinion any. In fact, only strengthens it.

WYite

Looks more like damage from small hiding spots. Or from a bigger cats.

I did some more research on HLLE and would almost guarantee that's what the Syno has. I've seen pics that look similar to what is on the Syno and here's a description.

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The symptoms are well described by the name. First, the fish will develop small, grey, pin-hole abrasions around the eyes and head. As the disease progresses, it spreads down the lateral line. These lesions will grow and if not treated, can lead to secondary infections and may eventually kill the fish.