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    Nano Cichlids
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:55 am

    well ive made the decision to go with discus so my plan is to take my current 55 gallon cichlid community and move them to a 100 gallon (there out growing the tank sooner then i thought) the the empty 55 will become my discus tank. im working with pops on his site. hopefully it will be successful but i dont see why it wouldn't
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:24 pm

    If you get 2-3 inchers you could even start them in a 30 and then move them to the 55. Give you some time to move your Cichlid party.
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:53 pm

    well i normally would be thrilled to get another tank. but i dont have the money at the moment and id like to save up for the 100 gallon
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:47 pm

    Ya. I more meant if you have an extra one. I wasn't recommending you go buy another one. Really. We don't need more tanks. Wink

    Speaking of tempting. My local petsmart had a 75g for 35% off since one of the hoods had a crack in it. I'm going to see how long it sits and pester the manager about getting it cheaper to use as a potential home for the discus when they're full grown.. Wink
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:25 am

    Nano pops discus grow fast! Mine have grown from 2.5" to 3" in a month. It might not seem like alot but I can tell the difference and they are eating like pigs!
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:45 pm

    I don't know about yours, but mine have started to beg. They're in a tank right by where we hang out, and whenever I come near they all get out in front with a "yay! time to eat" look on their face.

    I could feed them, get up leave the room and come back in 5 minutes and they'd go beg again. I'm tempted to see how many times they'd beg for food doing that, but I don't think I have enough food. Wink
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:05 am

    Nano Cichlids wrote:
    oh the options of a 55 gallon.... well for the first time ive decided to try something new. Discus!!!!

    i have a few questions to start, how many can i keep? i plan on buying them all at 3in

    how should i aquascape the tank?

    some basics for care?

    and breeding? is it hard?



    Whats up Nano?

    Long time no talk, this site has come a long way I will be here and will tell all my Discus and Angel People to come over so we can make some changes in the way people perscieve Discus and Angels.

    As most of you all know Pops is the Master of Angels and soon to be Discus Guru. I have been at this a long time and I am working with the top breeders in the world. (Isaid breeders not keepers or re salers) all the information we have has come from personal experiences not what you read in a book or hear say . I have a problem with some of the people in this hobby who portray themselves experts in Discus and Angels just because they have had a sucessful FEW hatches. JUst Luck IMO. People who just repeat what someone else told them without an ounce of reasearch to confirm what way said.

    Please do not take offence here I am just venting , I am fed up with people trying to give others info on keeping and breeding these fish, after all I guess I could just let it be and let them figure out on their own. But NO I want to share what I have learned;or all the $$$$ I have spent and the knowldge I have 'aquired will be worthless when I am gone.

    If anyone want any help with Discus or Angels feel free to PM me and I will help.

    Please forgive the spelling ! Lol.

    Have a Great Day

    Pops
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:35 pm

    cheers The discus God has finally arrived! Pops just to let you know I'm like a sponge waiting to soak up all of the knowledge you are willing to share! The discus I bought from you are getting BIG! I'm hoping to get at least 1 pair out of the 8.

    Mostlycichlids just launched another site called the cichlid project. We would love it if you shaired your angel and discus wisdom on that forum too.
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:59 pm

    Yay! Hi Pops!

    All the discus I have are doing just fine. I'm not sure why they have such a rep for being so difficult. Maybe just the challenges with the wild caught guys?
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:04 pm

    Nano Cichlids wrote:
    ive come up with what i seem is a decent stock, remember the tank is a 55 gallon

    6 Discus ill let them pair up, because im buying them all as juveniles, ill keep hopefully 3 pairs but mostly likely only 2, im going to keep the tank at 83-84F and then 3 water changes a week each being 20%


    Nano,

    Doing a 3 / 20% Wc's a week is possible with larger Discus or with a super filtration system. Keep in mind that juvies need lots of high protien food which will spoil your water fast. I would highly recommend that if you are going to get 2.5"-3" Discus to start that you have a Bare bottom tank and you do 20% Wc's per day . This will allow you to feed the necessary amount of food so that you do not stunt thes fish. If you put a fluval 405 and an
    AC 70 on that 55 you will have enough filtration to get away with just vacumming the bottom daily and replacing 5% water.

    You all may want to consider a holding tank weather it be a small barrel or a tupperware container to hold aged water if you want to start breeding Discus or Angels . If you get a lot of rain or lack of rain in your area your local Water Co. may add extra chemicals with out you being aware of it hence putting your stock in danger. We use 35 gallon trash cans with a powerhead and an air stone running after we treat the water to keep it fresh.

    I hope you will take what I am telling you into consideration as I have learned the hard way and have lost thousands of $ worth of fish in the past 12 years.

    I wish you well ,

    Pops
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    PostSubject: Re: Discuss Question   Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:09 pm

    saint_felony wrote:
    Yay! Hi Pops!

    All the discus I have are doing just fine. I'm not sure why they have such a rep for being so difficult. Maybe just the challenges with the wild caught guys?


    I am glad they are working out for you.

    Let me explain something , When you start out with quality stock you are ahead of the game coming out of the gate.

    If you buy from the LFS you do not know where they come from or what they may be carring.

    We are at the Hatchery every week as I am learning form one of the Masters in the Hobby. I bring a lot to the table but I still am learning.
    I have learned to ask the right people questions so that I can benifit from their experience , this means I will probably save a ton of $ as long as I listen.
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